Darth Nihilus has force resistance. ... Star Wars Tales #24 9.6+/9.8 NM+ MT ~ 1st App Darth Nihilus Dark Horse Comics. I found out Malachor V is strong in the Darkside of The Force. ... Mace windu. Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue. share. He never worked under Revan in the latter persona. The shows take place in the same universe. 7. If Sidious killed Windu on his own, then it would look quite bad infront of Anakin, and we might not have episodes 4,5, and 6. Discussion board for Star Wars versus matchups and related topics. Nihilus entonces la reclutó para los Sith. Literally anyone that isn’t Meetra Surik. Mace need Obi Wan's help. Yeah, because a technique that only somewhat delayed the effects of the Dark Reaper at a considerable distance is the same as taking on a far more powerful, concentrated drain. So the whole ‘increase the feat even further beyond Nihilus base’ doesn’t make sense since Nihilus’s base becomes more and more powerful with every drain. The argument is even flawed. I think that when you get to a certain tier in Star Wars you just have to assume because when there that powerful they should be able to counter his drain due to their mastery and power in the force as I don’t remember someone like Yoda (who by several quotes mace has parity with) or plagueis having masterful knowledge of the technique, yet they are In the top 5 sith and Jedi, though I could be wrong. 1). 1 Character Synopsis 2 Character Statistics 3 Other Attributes 3.1 Disney Abilities 3.2 Legends/EU Abilities 4 Others Emperor Sheev Palpatine, secretly the Dark Lord of the SithDarth Sidious, was the last Supreme Chancellor of the Galactic Republic, the first and only emperor of the Galactic Empire, and arguably the most powerful Sith Lord in the galaxy's history. Even without drain his feats are better. This is something of debate that has been discreetly going on for years, but I can't help but suspect Mace Windu didn't really defeat Palpatine (in a combat sense). 92 Votes in Poll. ... Darth Revan had the ability to wield the powers of both the light side and dark side of the Force. save. Greatest Sith Lords Marka Ragnos - Unknown Exar Kun Darth Nihilus - Unknown Darth Bane Darth Sidious Freedon Nadd - Unknown Well i guess its Luke, Yoda and Mace VS Sidous Bane and Kun. I honestly can’t see Nihilus dying to a lightsaber. Windu stood at 1.88 meters (about 6 feet, two inches), and 84 kilograms (about 185 pounds). Could someone here provide Force feats for Mace that compares to fleet-scale telekinesis or destroying Citadel Station which could tank having the Ravager crash into and explode? Star Wars Episode I Phantom Menace 3 1st App Darth Maul Mace Windu key NM. Scales to canonically more powerful Sith and his inferior has fought off superior drain. A master of every single form of lightsaber combat and numerous aspects of the Force, only Jedi as powerful as Grand Master Yoda could call themselves his peer in battle. Vs. If he can get close, he wins. It slowly sweeps across the surface with even the population being able to react and run. I don't think arguing Mace~Sheev>Nihilus makes for a very compelling argument especially since Nihilus's feats arguably surpass ROTS Sidious's by a significant margin. Seems like he’s beyond physical limitations, even if he did encase his essence in his armour and mask. Then again I skimmed through a post that said mace couldn’t fully resist the Dark Reaper and Nihilus has drained a planet even though I’ve heard he bombarded it first. Re: Darth Nihilus vs. Mace Windu on Mon 10 Jun 2019 - 8:38 @BreakofDawn wrote: Prime Mace is a fair bit stronger in the Force and infinitely more skilled with a blade. Also Nihilus' planetary drain is ≠his combat applicable drain plus no reason to assume Nihilus' drain is even stronger than Dark Reaper's. The fact that he can drain an entire planet, despite it not being ‘instant’, goes to show how potent and deadly his draining actually is. Not only that, but Nihilus’s power gains are permanent and so the power he gains from draining isn’t a buff, but an addition to his base power. Would you like to react to this message? Also, as it takes skill to win a duel on Hero vs … The show doesn't nerf the characters. Need more heroes on hero modes. Sidious as of ROTS has been 13 years out of practise with a lightsaber and yet he still managed to kill off "3 of the greatest swordsman of the jedi order" in a swift stroke 3.) Darth Nihilus can take everything what Mace can bring to the table. 2.) Both Nihlius and Yoda were amped when they did their respected feats. His only shot is his savant deathfield/cloud/drain ability, which while very powerful on a vast scale, remains untested against a single, extremely powerful individual. 8 Darth Nihilus. Mace Windu was a male Korun Jedi Master of legendary status who was the Master of the Order in the days leading up to the Battle of Geonosis, after which he gave the title to Grand Master Yoda. Just because Nihilus isn’t able to drain the entire planet in an ‘instant’ does not mean he cannot drain Mace in an instant or very quickly. Not to mention that it's widely acknowledged that Mace's strongest department is not in the Force, it's with the blade. Born into an influential … Discussion board for Star Wars versus matchups and related topics. You realise his power and the range of that power grows exponentially after each feat. 1.) I still do think Windu bodies RotS or even RotJ Palpatine but I changed my vote because of DE Palps and how the novel talked about how Mace was struggling to block the lightning and that he could only disarm … As such, he commanded incredible influence over the Jedi Council and subsequently the Jedi Order itself. Episode 3 - Sidious VS Mace - 304984080 Episode 3 - March on the Jedi Temple - 142508232 ... Mace Windu theme - 150908144 EA’s Battlefront - Emperor’s Theme - 542216327 ... SWTOR - Darth Revan’s Mask - 142285938 SWTOR - Clash of Destiny - 263297202 hide. 47. Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue. Mace Windu VS Darth Sidious. Draining Mace, a single Force user, isn’t even close at all to draining an entire planet which had millions of Force users. Windu isn't Sidious tier at base combative ability, no. Revan vs Mace Windu. This is what turned him into Darth Nihilus. If not, Nihilus' drain kills him. Revan vs Mace Windu. Prime Mace is a fair bit stronger in the Force and infinitely more skilled with a blade. Nihilus was even destroying the surface of the planet and not just draining it. Close. Archived. Round 1-Random encounter, neither knows anything about the other. Archived. When it comes to lightsaber wielding, Jedi Master Mace Windu is known as the best. So, what makes you think Nihilus not ‘instantly’ draining a planet (not just a moon) would mean Mace can resist Nihilus? Nihilus’ drain is unique to Trayus teachings as well, AFAIK. I'd bet on Mace. No ‘initial burst’ or anything like that is even implied. But in the end it's made very clear that Vaapad, and himself on the best day of his life, couldn't handle Sheev ramping up his lightning to full potency. Indeed. Vote. Traya's era is in fact one of the weakest era's for Force users. Posted by 5 years ago. Indeed. Mace Windu Nomi Sunrider - Unknown Thon - I have no idea who this is. A cautious and wary individual, he was opposed to Anakin Skywalker's acceptance into th… The man who would become Nihilus followed Revan to fight the Mandalorians, but was caught up in the activation of the Mass Shadow Generator. Darth Sidious He was talking to me. Posted by 5 years ago. Lets end the debate. For many reasons. TheHolyDarkness ... And both Yoda and Windu still have better feats then him. Mace Windu VS Darth Sidious. Round 2-Both know the abilities of the other and will adjust their strategy accordingly. Frankly no. Darth Sidious knew Anakin is the one who had to kill Mace Windu, so Anakin would have no option but to join Darth Sidious. report. De todos sus habitantes, flora y fauna, la única sobreviviente fue una mujer miraluka llamada Visas Marr. 34. Mace Windu was the one who with his Vaapad matched the greatest Sith of any generation in … There is also learning rates, his ability as a teacher and other factors to consider. 2). He could have overpowered Windu with the force easily but chose to not go all out to manipulate Anakin. https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Force_resistance. Old republic and the new ones. Where is the evidence for this exactly? Nihilus's unique ... 5 Mace Windu. Darth Vader beat the Emperor in the end, using one of his own tactics he witnessed decades before with Mace Windu. It's shown that the cloud doesn't infact insta kill the planet. Nihilus still has to be in orbit to drain. Nihilus' martial abilities are absolutely woeful compared to Mace's. Let us not mention the fact that Mace destroyed Battledroids. Luke vs Nihilus* (yOu NeEd tO bE A WoUnD iN tHe FoRcS tO bEat Nihilus) *Ewan Mccgragor vs Lord's husbando who is actually no better than Kylo Ren as a duelists and Force user *Revan vs Bane (he has the power of Comic Vine and killermovies Windu vs Magus* (Vaapad is not perfect) Yoda vs Krate* (Little old Shrek dies. Visas even says that he's close to being able to merely jump into a system and kill everything with his presence. The only reason Mace had a advantage over Sidious because of … So trying the 'parity with most powerful ever' argument doesn't work when put through its paces. Nihilus can sense ALL force users in the galaxy for one. 5 Mara Jade Skywalker Otherwise, Nihilus overwhelms him with debatable ease. $150.00 + $5.00 shipping . Nihilus' raw power feats are too great, he wins. If Nihilus has to drain a small area first to fuel the cloud and continue fueling the cloud from what was previously drained, then Nihilus would have nearly zero overall gain in power after draining the planet since he would have constantly had to use what he drained previously to fuel the cloud to continue draining. And he uses the same draining technique for individuals. Mace might be a lot more powerful, but he has no way to defend against the draining technique. Also Nihilus’s TK is definitely top tier as he held his Large ship together through raw TK and pulled his entire fleet or something from orbit, so even without drain mace not being ragdolled or just dominated in TK is highly questionable. Yeah I see no reason to assume he can teach them the technique or that they can master the technique in days not to mention the problem of teaching it to everyone being an incredibly huge issue. Avictor of duels in which she fought against formidable opponents like Darth Sion and Darth Nihilus, Surik was not just a powerful Force-user but also a master of several forms of lightsaber combat, and Sidious would have to work very hard to beat her. Low-balling him because of a feat that, given the aforementioned, isn't even a limitation that applies to his prime is ridiculous. Starkiller was able to vaporize stormtroopers, but Vader had no effect because he is force sensitive. I fear Mace ultimately becomes another quick meal for the Dark Lord. Chee has said Sidious's supremacy quotes are subjective and has also repeatedly said supremacy quotes aren't absolute. Mace Windu, Darth Talon, Jango Fett, Ashoka, Malgus, Darth Nihilus, Bane, Revan, Qui-gon Jinn, Ki-Adi Mundi, Kit Fisto and many many more it would take me a whole thread to type. You committed a logical fallacy. 4. Sure it had some high end people, mostly Nihilus, but overall, nope. Hailing from the world of Haruun Kal, Mace Windu served as one of the last members of the Jedi High Council before the Great Jedi Purge. Los Jedi no fueron rivales para Nihilus, quien usó sus masivos poderes de la Fuerza para alimentarse de los seres vivos de Katarr. The same Talzin also was doing just fine dueling Windu in a sword fight in season 6. If that's granted, that's very important because Mace would most likely need to disconnect from the Force in order to fight Darth Nihilus. 4. 1v1. Fighting in a flat open field. The Dark Reaper isn’t able to ‘instantly’ drain moons either and yet Mace would have failed to resist it. I haven’t even gone into Nihilus’s TK feats. Mace Windu was a Human Jedi Master and arguably the Jedi Order's greatest warrior during the Clone Wars. He had a damn good shot at killing the most powerful Sith in history and weathered his Force attacks. Mace windu is one of the greatest lightsaber duelists ever. But worse off for your argument, Leland Chee himself said those quotes aren't in anyway an 'absolute' and can't be used to matter-of-fact his way over everyone else. This thread is archived. Windu in his final battle was fighting with a whole bunch of circumstances fueling his ability to contend with Sheev. Close. Would you like to react to this message? Straight up fight. If we're talking the novelisation, Windu at his literal peak is still incapable of matching Sheev's Force lightning at full potency. So to answer your question, Anakin is nowhere close to her either. I can't really see Nihilus beating Mace with the force, let alone quickly assuming Anakin taught the technique of drain resistance to the rest of the Jedi and there is no reason to assume he didn't. Darth Sidious was always stronger than Vader, which is why he ruled over him for almost 20 years and turned him into the Sith Lord he was. The jedi win but it would be a great fight. What’s even the point in draining if most of it goes into fueling the cloud? 17 Weaker: Mace Windu. Darth Sidious, being far out of his physical prime at that point, was substantially outmatched in his physical abilities. Mace Windu's ... Windu was the only fighter who applied that technique that hasn't succumbed to the dark side's seduction and he purposefully did it in order to break this particular dark-side user tradition. The filthy cosplayer who is sub Ajunta Pall doesn't stand a chance against even TPM Windu. Rey Skywalker Mace Windu Ezra Bridger Kanan Jarrus. Sort by. So no, he absolutely doesn't scale from Sheev's quotes. Yet, Vader (Anakin) was always tactically gifted. 96% Upvoted. Mace still stomps. Battledroids have no defense against tk, because they aren't force sensitive. Shipped with USPS First Class in Gemini Mailer. Darth Nihilus Darth Nihilus and Darth Sion vs Luke Skywalker, Yoda, Mace Windu and Anakin Skywalker Thread ... No Sion is not equal to Darth Nihilus, much less scrapping the shoe's of Bane or Exar Kun. Darth Nihilus. Also, I am not sure where you are getting the ‘Nihilus only needs to drain one area’ or ‘Nihilus only created the initial burst’ argument. Conversely the Jedi were desperate to prevent them. That's why the Sith Empire were desperate to obtain his holocron. He was saved however by Mace Windu who encouraged him that Kaja would never reunite with those who were lost going down that path. Among other visions, Yoda saw a hooded figure slay Jedi Masters Agen Kolar, Saesee Tiin, and Kit Fisto in quick succession. Some version of this showdown was foreseen by Jedi Grand Master Yoda during his experience in the Dark Side Cave on Dagobah towards the end of the Clone Wars. Him learning it in such a short amount of time cannot mean everyone can obviously, Nihilus. Vote. Nihilus was draining an entire planet while Mace is just 1 person. 80 Votes in Poll (edited by moderator) 2. His draining is entirely combat applicable as he has used it in combat scenarios before like cutting Kreia off the Force. No holding back. And what does this have to do with resisting. Soon after, he witnessed the same hooded figure assault Mace Windu with a torrent of Force lightning. 58 comments. 4 Darth Sidious. Even providing the Drain has some kind of effect on Mace, Nihilus will have trouble implementing it while he's under fire and Mace should be powerful enough to close the gap before becoming so weakened he would lose in a lightsaber duel. Mace probably takes it if he's a legitimate Sidious-tier combatant absent any extenuating circumstance. Like theories about Boba Fett or Darth Maul (which actually ended up coming true), Star Wars fans have long believed that Windu is still alive, despite having an altercation that seemed fatal. Nor is he as strong as Yoda, who was Sheev's equal. Darth Nihilus se enteró, y se encaminó hacia Katarr. The clouds are shown covering the entire planet. Kenobi resisted and fought off a DE Sids + sentient planet that could sense and drain over light years. He could communicate with people across the galaxy, heal himself and others, and was an exceptionally skilled warrior. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Art by Zackarra. Ezra Bridger, Kanan Jarrus,and Rey Skywalker . Darth Sidious stood at 1.73 meters (about 5 feet, 8 inches) and 75 kilograms (about 165 pounds). 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